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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

YeUldSkoolGmr wrote:
pg 31 and 32
Table 2.2.1
Shield, kite has a cost of 30 sc

Table 2.3.1
Shield, kite has a cost of 5-25 sc

While all other armor/shield prices on Table 2.3.1 have the exact same pricing as those on Table 2.2.1, or the range of prices given would include them, the cost of a kite shield does not.


Jimmy, what would be your call for the kite shield's cost?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 6:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
However, for Earth Walk . . .

In brief, I am pretty much of the school that says a group should discuss things, but the Game Master ultimately makes the call on just about anything rules / world related in an RPG - especially magic. So, that is why I am hesitant at times to mention this sort of thing. Perhaps, in doing so, I am merely giving an insight into how I MIGHT rule on this spell.

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As for the Call Object wording issue, how about "onto the wizard's person" instead . . .

Sounds good, for the moment.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

More discoveries . . .

pg 43
Table 2.5.1 Hermetic magic spells
7th Circle spell listing

Goetic Ward, while on the list at bottom, should come between Firestorm and Golem

pg 65
The descriptions of the spells Control and Command: Confuse are not in the correct order.

pg 66
Ethereal Shift

second paragraph
"Thus, the he cannot move . . ."
to
"Thus, he cannot move . . ."

third paragraph
"Interposing creatures and the recipient will each suffer . . ."

Seeing as the Effect property is Caster only, is the wizard truly a "recipient" of this spell's effect, at least as it is used in the Note's example?

May I suggest, instead:

"Interposing creatures and the caster will each suffer . . ."

Extra-planar Protection
"In addition, to this effect, such creatures will find . . ."
to
"In addition to this effect, such creatures will find . . ."

pg 69
Time Skip
last sentence
In keeping with similar language elsewhere (not to mention clarity), the following:
"Non-living objects. . . and will be cast away in the nearest free direction."
to
"Non-living objects. . . and the recipient will be cast away in the nearest free direction."

pg 70
Age
Based on page 8, life expectancy for an orc is 65 to 85 years. And, the guidelines on page 32 of GMRB describes the idea of the "lower limit" of life expectancy and the resulting percentages to determine possible death.
Also, see Note from Steal Youth spell, page 78

Therefore:
". . . if an orcish character were more than 65 years old after an Age spell . . . "

Animate Corpse
second paragraph
"However it may attack twice . . ."
to
"However, it may attack twice . . ."

pg 71
Confine
"If the bauble is physical destroyed . . ."
to
"If the bauble is physically destroyed . . ."

pg 74
The descriptions of the spells Petrify and Perturbation are not in the correct order.

Portal
last sentence
". . . the placement of the will be accurate."
to
". . . the placement of the portal will be accurate."

Antithesis
capitalization change
"Effect: 1 Creature" to "Effect: 1 creature"

pg 76
Domination
first paragraph
". . . free reign of affected creature's mind."
to
". . . free reign of the affected creature's mind."

pg 80
Effect property explanation
". . . may increase the maximum creatures target by some spells."
to
". . . may increase the maximum creatures targeted by some spells."

pg 82
Double
last sentence
"Only one double spell may be maintained at a time."
Should not this reference to the spell BY NAME mean that it should be capitalized?

pg 83
Klutz
". . . the Klutz spell causes a creature become . . ."
to
". . . the Klutz spell causes a creature to become . . ."

Minor Phantasm
second paragraph
". . . a creature could be stung, and possible suffer the effects . . ."
to
". . . a creature could be stung, and possibly suffer the effects . . ."

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yaaaaa!
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

YeUldSkoolGmr wrote:
More discoveries . . .

[...]

Til next time fellers!


Also added those but lose a sanity point for this one. Wink

YeUldSkoolGmr wrote:

Antithesis
capitalization change
"Effect: 1 Creature" to "Effect: 1 creature"


I'm currently also trying to give the Game Master's book the same treatment that you are giving the Player's book. I realize now that, in my first read-throughs, I was more focused on identifying elements that affected the game-play and/or rules rather than grammar-related issues. I will now attempt to catch as much of those errata items as possible.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will brace myself. Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

More discoveries . . .

pg 86
Charm Animal
". . . will not affect creatures with an intellect score 5 (low) or greater."
to
". . . will not affect creatures with an intellect score 5 (very low) or greater."

On page 89 of GMRB, it says that a "very low" intellect score "may be loosely translated" into a range of 3-5. However, where this spell is concerned, I can see the wiggle room granted because of the use of the word "loosely," leaving the text as is.

pg 87
Function
"Note: By in addition to causing . . ."
to
"Note: In addition to causing . . ."

Hide
"Note: If the object affected by hide is touched . . ."
to
"Note: If the object affected by Hide is touched . . ."

pg 88
Shimmering Armor
"Only one Shimmering armor spell may be . . ."
to
"Only one Shimmering Armor spell may be . . ."

pg 90
Doubt
Perhaps the interpretation of this spell is best left to a group of players (and GM discretion), but . . .

Should not the first sentence of paragraph two read something like this:
"For example, a goblin affected by Doubt strikes out at the alchemist with a longsword."
Otherwise, as the paragraph stands now, it mentions how the goblin hit (rolled even?) twice, presumably for a single swing, so to speak: i.e., from sentences one and four.

Heavy
per text and table on page 32
". . . the strength requirement of the armor is effectively adjusted by -1 throughout the spell's duration."
to
". . . the strength requisite of the armor is effectively adjusted by +1 throughout the spell's duration."

pg 91
Improved Enchant Armor
"Note: Multiple Improved Enchant armor spells . . ."
to
"Note: Multiple Improved Enchant Armor spells . . ."

Pariah
"Although this will affect creature's . . ."
to
"Although this will affect a creature's . . ."

pg 92
Phantasm
". . . make a Resistance check of 14 to resist petrification . . "
to
". . . make a Mental Resistance check of 11 to resist petrification . . "

pg 93
Doppleganger
last sentence
"Likewise if the doppleganger is reduced . . ."
to
"Likewise, if the doppleganger is reduced . . ."

Efficacy Shield
Has a property of "School: Jinxes" and yet Table 2.5.2 gives "illus."

pg 94
Improved Enchant Weapon
suggested change to text
". . . -4 adjustment to the weapon's strength requirement."
to
". . . -4 adjustment to the weapon's strength requisite."

Inscribe
"Note: If an alchemist may cast spells Hermetic or Ritual magic spells . . ."
to
"Note: If an alchemist may cast Hermetic or Ritual magic spells . . ."

pg 95
Phantasmal Armor
". . . is that it nearly impossible . . ."
to
". . . is that it is nearly impossible . . ."

pg 96
Shout
Has a property of "School: Illusion" and yet Table 2.5.2 gives "jinx."

pg 101
Polymorph
". . . would have 56 of 70 health points . . ."
to
". . . would have 42 of 70 health points . . ."

Split
". . . only be means of a Dispel Magic . . ."
to
". . . only by means of a Dispel Magic . . ."

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Noted! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

More discoveries . . .

pg 102
Spell consolidation and substitution
"A priest may only consolidate spells if the he or she . . ."
to
"A priest may only consolidate spells if he or she . . ."

pg 104, Table 2.5.3 Faith magic spells

2nd Circle listing
Insight is incorrectly listed before Innocence.
Sense Life is incorrectly listed before Scourge.

3rd Circle listing
Silence is incorrectly listed before Shatter.

4th Circle listing
Pestilence, Familiarity, and Animate Plants are not in the correct order.

5th Circle listing
Regenerate, Repel are not in the correct order.

6th Circle listing
Aura of Protection, Alter Weather, and Anamnesis are not in the correct order.

pg 105
Calm Animal
"Domain: Tellurgy" property vs 1st Circle Domain listing (Table 2.5.3) of "benef."

pg 108
Water Walk
I would suggest "Resist: Mental 10 + PC" goes against the idea of "Effect: Caster only"

Charm Animal
". . . intellect score 5 (low) . . ."
to
". . . intellect score 5 (very low) . . ."
or to
". . . intellect score 6 (low) . . ."

pg 109
Cripple
"Thus, a bipedal would move . . ."
to
"Thus, a biped would move . . ."

Insight, Innocence
The descriptions of these spells are not in the correct order.

pg 110
Plant Growth
". . . Feat of Strength of 14 will half . . ."
to
". . . Feat of Strength of 14 will halve . . ."

pg 111
Wrench
"If magic-using character afllicted by . . ."
to
"If a magic-using character afllicted by . . ."

pg 112
Curse
under Wretch
"For example, if character affected by . . ."
to
"For example, if a character affected by . . ."

Hindsight
Perhaps this spell's description is best left to each group's interpretation, but . . .
"Effect: Caster only" vs ". . . casting Hindsight upon a table . . ."

pg 113
Infuse
First paragraph, last sentence
". . . to 4 circles of spell power."
to
". . . to 4 Circles of spell power."
Based on first paragraph, first sentence capitalization

Message
"Message allows to the priest to . . ."
to
"Message allows the priest to . . ."

pg 114
Shatter
". . . hears a intense piercing tone."
to
". . . hears an intense piercing tone."

pg 115
Summon Lesser Fauna
under large bats entry
". . . must make a Physical Resistance of 7 . . ."
to
". . . must make a Physical Resistance check of 7 . . ."

Torment
"If magic-using character afflicted by Torment . . ."
to
"If a magic-using character afflicted by Torment . . ."

pg 116
The descriptions of the spells for Animate Plants and Ambrosia are not in the correct order.

pg 117
Death's Door
". . . that has perished within in the same or previous round . . ."
to
". . . that has perished within the same or previous round . . ."
or
". . . that has perished in the same or previous round . . ."

pg 118
Move Water
The Range property is not aligned correctly.

Given that a volume of water equal to 125 cubic feet (or 5' x 5' x 5') is detailed in the first sentence, then "a wall approximately 10' x 10' x 2'" would exceed that, at 200 cubic feet.

"Although the Move Water cannot inflict . . ."
to
"Although the Move Water spell cannot inflict . . ."

pg 119
Summon Lesser Avatar
Both Angel (Lesser) and Lesser djinn have a fly movement rate of 200" and it should be 200'

pg 120
Swarm
". . . causing any creature within the swarm will suffer . . ."
to
". . . causing any creature within the swarm to suffer . . ."

"However a normal torch flame . . ."
to
"However, a normal torch flame . . ."

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indeed!

Thanks again, YUSG.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

More discoveries . . .

pg 120
Banish
"Banish will effect any number of creatures . . ."
to
"Banish will affect any number of creatures . . ."

pg 121
Channel
". . . a 6th Circle priest could use channel to . . ."
to
". . . a 6th Circle priest could use Channel to . . ."

Clarity
". . . as if affected by the 3rd Circle Sense Deception spell."
to
". . . as if affected by the 1st Circle Sense Deception spell."

pg 122
Pain Touch
A bit of awkward phrasing?
". . . must make successful a to-hit roll . . ."
to
". . . must make a successful to-hit roll . . ."

pg 123
Sanctuary
"Although any creatures may enter of leave . . ."
to
"Although any creatures may enter or leave . . ."

Smite
"Resist: Physical 10 + PC"
vs
"If the creature targeted fails its Mental Resistance check."

Should not the Resist property (as with Strike) be:
"Resist: Mental 10 + PC for 1/2"

pg 124
Anamnesis
". . . available to the anamnesis spell . . ."
to
". . . available to the Anamnesis spell . . ."

pg 125
Control
"During this time, priest may act . . ."
to
"During this time, the priest may act . . ."

Eye of God
"Domain: Benefaction" property
vs
"rev." in the 6th Circle spell listing on Table 2.5.3 Faith magic spells (pg 104)

"Effect: 200' radius" property
vs
". . . within a 100 yard radius apply . . ."

Last sentence:
"For example if a 7th Circle priest . . ."
to
"For example, if a 7th Circle priest . . ."

pg 126
Glyph of Ruin
Under the Glyph of Frailty:
"The creature is affected as if target by the . . ."
to
"The creature is affected as if targeted by the . . ."

Impart Skill
". . . with an intellect of 4 (low) or greater . . ."
to
". . . with an intellect of 4 (very low) or greater . . ."

pg 127
Improved Psychometry
"Effect: Caster only"
vs
"However, when cast upon a non-living non-magical object . . ."
see 4th Circle Psychometry for "Effect: 1 object"

Also,
"For example, a priest casting Psychometry upon . . "
to
"For example, a priest casting Improved Psychometry upon . . "

Pacify and Mitigate
Their spell descriptions are out of order and should be reversed.

pg 128
Vision
". . . within the spells range."
to
". . . within the spell's range."

pg 129
Awareness
"Domain: Benefaction" property
vs
"rev." in the 7th Circle spell listing on Table 2.5.3 Faith magic spells (pg 104)

pg 130
Drain Life
"However this does not limit . . ."
to
"However, this does not limit . . ."

pg 131
Elemental Wall
Under the details for "Fire:" the last sentence mentions "Wall of Fire"

However, the desriptions for walls of earth (or more precisely, stone), water, and wind have no capitalized forms.

Ego Incarnation
This spell description is out of order. It should be on pg 130, before Elemental Form.

Also:
". . . for all intensive purposes . . ."
more properly to
". . . for all intents and purposes . . ."

Theurgic Replication
This spell description is out of order. It should be last on pg 134, before Elemental Form.

Also:
". . . the he could then recast . . ."
to
". . . he could then recast . . ."

pg 132
Implore
Suggested presentation change:
In keeping with the alpha order of these fiends in the first paragraph, should not their descriptions follow the same order: Daeva, Demon, and then Ifrit

pg 134
The following spell descriptions are out of order:
Everday/Evernight
Damnation
Death
Earthquake

Earthquake
"Effect: 400' radius area"
vs
". . . an area of 400' in diameter."

Imbue
". . . creature with an intellect of 4 (low) or greater . . ."
vs
pg 89 of GMRB
A creature of 'low' intellect is in the 6 - 7 range.

pg 135
Plague
"Domain: Damnation" property
vs
"tellur." in the 8th Circle spell listing on Table 2.5.3 Faith magic spells (pg 104)

pg 137
Resurrect
"The chance of resurrecting such a creature is such:"
to
"The chance of resurrecting a creature is such:"
see Reincarnate, pg 133, for similar wording.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm just passing by to mention that I did not abandon the task at hand. I'm almost finished updating my errata file with all the stuff found by YUSG as well as all the items found by re-reading the GM's Reference Book again. It's much easier now that I have the dead-tree version as opposed to reading it on a screen.

I'm almost done with the GM's Reference Book, I've only got a portion of the creatures' catalog left to go through. I'll then try to pick up where YUSG left off with the Player's Reference Book although I'm not sure I'll be able to do as awesome a job as he did. His ability to detect the odd detail simply is uncanny. Finally, I'll give the same treatment to the World of Twylos once I receive the book, which should be soon (Mongoose recently confirmed its shipment). Very Happy

EDIT: Actually, I've just received the book! Cool
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks again, Meta and YUSG.

You two are awesome.
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Still pluggin' away . . .

pg 138
Under Ritual Magic heading, first paragraph:
"Those who employ of Ritual magic . . ."
to
"Those who employ Ritual magic . . ."

pg 139
At the top of second column:
". . . and a 4th Circle mystic would have 15 skill points."
to
". . . and a 4th Circle mystic would have 15 spell points."

Table 2.5.4: Ritual magic spells
1st Circle spell listing
Blaze should come before Blindness
Tangle should come before Thin Skin

4th Circle spell listing
Vexation should come before Voodo Doll

5th Circle spell listing
Split Earth should come before Steal Life

pg 140
Blindness and Blaze
Their spell descriptions are out of order and should be reversed.

pg 141
Catechize
"Formula: BD" property
vs
"BS" in the 1st Circle spell listing on Table 2.5.4 Ritual magic spells (pg 139)

Also:
The first sentence of the spell's description has two uses of the word "Chatecize" with an "h" as part of its spelling, unlike its use elswhere.

pg 142
Fog
. . . attacks within the fog are at -2 'to hit".
to
. . . attacks within the fog are at -2 to hit.

Pest
The following assumes that the correct interpretation of this spell is that only ONE creature appears.

". . . brings forth a two over-sized insect . . ."
to
". . . brings forth an over-sized insect . . ."

Under the Large Spider entry it references "spiders," as in more than one creature.

pg 143
Resilience
"Formula: BD" property
vs
"BS" in the 1st Circle spell listing on Table 2.5.4 Ritual magic spells (pg 139)

pg 144
Thin Skin
"Formula: BB" property
vs
"BS" in the 1st Circle spell listing on Table 2.5.4 Ritual magic spells (pg 139)

Weakness
". . . a -3 modifier to his its Physical Resistance checks . . ."
to
". . . a -3 modifier to its Physical Resistance checks . . ."

Alter Temperature
". . . 70° Farenheit to increase to 120° . . ."
to
". . . 70° Farenheit to increase to 130° . . ."

pg 147
Smoke
. . . attacks made within the fog are at -4 'to hit".
to
. . . attacks made within the smoke are at -4 to hit.

pg 148
Summon Lesser Monsters
"1. 1d3 Health points: 6"
to
"1. 1d3 Lesser imps: Health points: 6"

Wither
"If cast upon a plant-based creatures . . ."
to
"If cast upon plant-based creatures . . ."

pg 149
Brute
"If a Hermetic or Hedge magic-user's intellect falls below 7 . . ."
to
"If a Hermetic or Hedge magic-user's intellect falls below 8 . . ."

Seeing as BELOW an intellect score of 7 would mean anything from 6 and under, that would be contrary to the "cross" notation given for intellect on Table 2.1.1: Attributes, pg 10.  This notation indicates a score of "7 or less," inclusive, precludes casting.

pg 150
Draw Blood
"Formula: BBBD" property
vs
"BBDS" in the 3rd Circle spell listing on Table 2.5.4 Ritual magic spells (pg 139)

Mesmerize
"However the creature will have a . . ."
to
"However, the creature will have a . . ."

pg 151
"Note: As all with Feats of Strength . . ."
to
"Note: As with all Feats of Strength . . ."

pg 152
Summon Lesser Undead
"A currently creature infected by a zombie . . ."
to
"A creature currently infected by a zombie . . ."

pg 153
Talisman
". . . wearing the talisman is affect by a minor . . ."
to
". . . wearing the talisman is affected by a minor . . ."

Torment
"If magic-using character afflicted by Torment attempts  . . ."
to
"If a magic-using character afflicted by Torment attempts  . . ."

Wake Dead
"However it may attack with . . ."
to
"However, it may attack with . . ."

Animal Form
"Formula: BBDGGG" property
vs
"BBGGG" in the 4th Circle spell listing on Table 2.5.4 Ritual magic spells (pg 139)

pg 156
Simulacrum
". . . the same strength, endurance agility scores as the caster."
to
". . . the same strength, endurance, and agility scores as the caster."

pg 157
Swarm
". . . causing any creature within the swarm will suffer . . ."
to
". . . causing any creature within the swarm to suffer . . ."

"However a normal torch flame . . ."
to
"However, a normal torch flame . . ."

Vexation
"For example, if character affected by the . . ."
to
"For example, if a character affected by the . . ."

As always . . . till next time fellers!
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

More discoveries after pluggin' away . . .

pg 158
Voodoo Doll
". . . three actions which afflicted the linked individual . . ."
to
". . . three actions which afflict the linked individual . . ."

Blood Shield
"Thus, was the mystic stung by a scorpion . . ."
to
"Thus, were the mystic stung by a scorpion . . ."

pg 159
Create Undead
Under the Zombie result:
"A currently creature infected by a zombie . . ."
to
"A creature currently infected by a zombie . . ."

Death's Door
"Formula: BBBDS" property
vs
"BBBBBD" in the 5th Circle spell listing on Table 2.5.4 Ritual magic spells (pg 139)

pg 162
The description of the spell Spirit Form should come before Split Earth.

pg 163
Summon Fauna
"The number and type of creatures summoned by the priest are . . ."
to
"The number and type of creatures summoned by the mystic are . . ."

Summon Undead
"The number and type of creatures summoned by the priest are . . ."
to
"The number and type of creatures summoned by the mystic are . . ."

Under the Zombie result:
"A currently creature infected by a zombie . . ."
to
"A creature currently infected by a zombie . . ."

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